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【チャンネル名 The Photography Toolkit by David Caleb】
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Nice comparison
The Z9 looks like it is about 1 stop better than the D850. I get that these two cameras have more features, but it would be interesting to see Z6ii photos alongside these.
Hi David 😉,
Now for colors you might check if you use “Adobe color” or “camera matching” profile.
Is you use standard camera profile by default, even if Nikon (and others brands) call it the same “standard” name, it’s not always the same adjustments and can explain why the colors are differents (Z9 and D850 don’t have the same “standard” profile btw).
But if you use Adobe color profile, it’s supposed to apply the same colors with every pictures (to avoid colors differences if you use two different cameras at the same time), but as nothing is really simple 😁 it seems some people have the feeling it’s not exactly the same…I know, they’re not kind with us ^^.
You can eventually set to “neutral” in camera matching, as it’s supposed to keep the colors the sensor records natively.
There’s also another difference between Z9 and D850: dual-ISO. It decreases the dynamic range of the Z9 at low ISO but gives an overall boost at high ISO, that’s probably why the D850 handles the spotlight better than the Z9 at low ISO and why the D850 is “smoky” and more “grainy” at high ISO.
But you did a great job 😊 it’s always a hard work to compare sensors performances because of the electronic tricks and hardware treatments, and even harder if you add your D4s in the comparison because you’d have to resize Z9/D850 files to 16MP 😅.
Nice work David! 🙂 Really good comparison.
I’m impressed by how much you put into this comparison. Nice work 👏.
I own both the D850 and Z9, have been shooting the still fantastic D850 for close to three years, and still shoot with it today, and the Z9 since around March, both cameras produce pretty much identical results in the image department. I also avoid shooting either camera past ISO 3200, will go to ISO 5K if the situation calls for it “which means I am running out of light and need a bit more shutter speed”. I clean up the images using DXOPhotolab6 and finish the editing in Affinity photo 1. I only shoot in RAW. If you want to retain more of the data “dynamic range”, avoid as much as possible going past ISO 3200 with either camera, preferably below ISO 1K, and keep the histogram as close to the right as possible before hitting the highlights clipping wall. No matter how much trickery is used packing 45 plus megapixels on a FF sensor means the pixel size will be smaller, which means less light gathering ability, which means more noise at higher ISO values, this is why Nikon keeps the pixel numbers lower on their D5 and D6, less pixels on the same size sensor means larger pixel size which means “more light gathering ability” you can shoot at higher ISO values compared to their 45 megapixel siblings, the D850 and Z9.
The only reason I bought the Z9 was for the video capabilities “which are great” and the larger buffer and FPS compared to the D850. If you are only shooting stills the D850 is one fantastic tool.
Don’t forget to check out the magic that happens when you see an ISO 4000 image on the Z9, it’s super clean, happens in Video as well and results in me using it at 4000 ISO almost all the time in low light scenes.
I do appreciate the attempt and work to make this video.
Question – Why would one ever zoom by 500 percent into a high iso digital image from a consumer camera and less than the best optical lens. Again you have shown the 850 holds its own for every practical purpose for less than half the price. For most of us, you have clearly presented why jpegs are great and shooting raw may be unnecessary given the quality and software that produces the image. Moreover it shoots good video for YouTube too with that nice sensor and useable iso range. Thanks!
Since you have the RAW files from both cameras, can you process them via the Nikon software instead of Lightroom and see if Nikon software does a better job at processing RAW into Jpegs? For a long while Lightroom were not processing the Z9 RAWs properly.
Which profile did you use Adobe Standard or Camera Standard — we recommend Camera Standard — ADOBE’S raw conversion of Z9 lossless raw is poor
On the jpeg tests, did you have the noise reduction on? And also, what jpeg setting did you use? Thanks!