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Thanks for sharing Bobby! Can you review the Leica M9 pls?
hey Bobby, this is a great and honest review.
Raising criticism is important for the future, and I hope Ricoh-Pentax listens to professionals like yourself.
You nailed it. I gave up after 15 000 shots and 2 bodies. Love Pentax and have all the best FF lenses SDM and DC motors and the K1-ll works flawless and hits better even in Sports and birds in flight. K3lll is a big dissapointment also for me, Love the K1-ll, 645z, old k3 and KP so this was absolut a disaster. Have taken 6000 shots with Canon R5 with RF lenses after k3lll and that is even worse in exposure and colors. Sony A7R3 was my last experiense with tamron 150-500 and its far from K1-ll in IQ. Anyway I bought the Tamron 100-500 and preordered the 35-150 f2-2.8 and now wait for the A7IV. I do not expect K1-ll or 645z IQ but hope it will solve my Sports and Wildlife shootings. AFC and Fps.
Pentax 150-450mm is sharper and better IQ than Tamron 100-500 but I have to compromise somehow. K1-ll will never leave me, rock solid performer in all situations. Try it.
Thanks for a Great and honest review.
Best regards
Bengt in Sweden
Cheers Bobby. You got a thumbs up from me. You nailed it in the coffin. AF was bad. Worse ever and there were so many other issues that l gave up on the system . I cant recommend it either.
Watch out for the Pentax fanboys. Cheers~!
I totally believe everything you said. Your experience is VERY similar to mine when I purchased the Pentax K1 a few years ago. The funny thing is that the one at the camera store actually had an AF defect. I drove several miles to a different store and tried another one, and the AF was also bad. The third one was okay, but, the AF was still terrible. Some “swear” that their camera’s AF works “perfectly fine” but I don’t believe them. I was using the Sigma HSM 85mm 1.4 and the Pentax 24-70 2.8. I too went to a photoshoot and started taking still photos and the darn AF would hunt to the point like you said when I got home and looked at the photos many of them were really blurry and OOF. I got so lucky with that particular client because I took multiple photos of the same pose just to be sure that I got at least one photo of each to give to the customer. Just as you said it is embarrassing. In Digital Preview everyone swears that the K3III is in an entire different league, yeah, compared to their own Pentax cameras with sorry AF, but Pentax AF algorithms are all over the place and unreliable.
It is possible that just as me, your copy was indeed bad because when you describe what you did you sound like the same situation I went thru with my camera. It was possibly defective which is sad. Pentax cameras are “supposed” to be rugged but they are actually very unreliable when it comes to AF so what’s the point if you can’t get consistent sharp photos. There are other youtubers that have used the K3III for several months such as Kobie-MC and he says that the AF is really really good specially for AF-S, but maybe he got really lucky and actually got a good copy.
Nice considered review. Are you experienced with IBIS? The pentax can easily be used hand held at 1/10 second. In the gym I would have used AV setting ISO400 and whatever f stop you needed.
I think the problem with the K-3 mkIII is that it requires considerable user experience to get the best out of it.
It’s good to know where Pentax stands today. My first SLR was the Pentax Spotmatic that I loved. They were great cameras in the film days.
I am sitting in the kitchen, it is dark outside and just the light from a computer screen and the light above the sink. Using the DFA24-70/2.8 and I am nailing focus, without hunting @f/3.2, all the time. Using OVF. Did you use the LCD or the OVF? If LCD it will probably hunt.
“First time I’ve ever used a Pentax camera, so no bias.” I’m not sure if that doesn’t imply an “unfamiliarity bias,” which I personally believe, in the case of Pentax, exists.
Thanks for review, your review is very direct and open. It would be interesting to understand why it happened so, k3-III looks like good camera but it has problems which normally any manufacturer of camera can not have if he is so long on market, they must know they work. So for me main question – what went wrong? What was the cause of this results?
would be very interesting to see same approach review one year later, same camera but with all updates and new lenses. Maybe even new lenses + lenses from first review.
I appreciate you taking the time to review a Pentax camera, and your mix of praise and criticism. I have the new K-3, as well as a K-1. The new APSC blows the K-1 out of the water on AF. I do not know why you had such problems, though – and this isn’t your fault – the 77 would be one of the worst lenses to test AF on. The AF modes on the new K-3 are not as intuitive as the best MILC options, and I wonder if you had the opportunity to make the most of them. I nail focus on my kid running toward me, inside or out – something that is impossible on the K-1. In any event, thanks for the review.
If passively seeing the focus points isn’t needed, I think the focus points can be set to always illuminate when focus is achieved. By default it’s set to auto.
Did you heard about testing before professional application?
Oh Bobby… sounds like you and I are on the same page. Like you, I currently have a K3III from Pentax Australia for some reviews and impressions and I too will be doing my utmost to be positive. I’m in my first week with the camera and so can sympathize with a lot of what you had to say. My only benefit is I am actually very familiar with the Pentax range of cameras, I own the K-1 and 645D and have more lenses that I can adapt to the K3III for my testing and experience. I may be able to config the camera to avoid some of the pitfalls you were experiencing… maybe.
But earlier this year I bought a Fuji XT-4, I knew (even before the K3III was released) it would not tick all the boxes I need going forward and needed to add a new brand to my bag, XT-4 is amazing. Shooting weddings and events with Pentax is extremely taxing and I had enough, thank you Fuji for saving my sanity!
Pentax is definitely suited to slow shooting and most Pentaxians are hobbyist so I don’t think they will all completely understand that ‘professional’ requirement, especially assignments involving portraiture work, it just feels like you have to work 10x harder with Pentax to nail the shot and move on. However… having said that… I leave my Fuji at home when I am doing landscape work or slow stuff, in terms of IQ, resolving power, unique rendering, colours… man oh man.. it’s hard to look past Pentax. Factor in the very durable rugged and weather sealed body its a superb combo.
But the K3III is more intended for action and not slow stuff, hence the lack of tilt screen high fps etc, so it falls into a weird category of not really being as good as the rest of the bunch still, MILC just has so many advantages now for professional portraiture assignments/sports that I don’t know how Pentax can keep up. Perhaps they shouldn’t and instead play to their strengths. Have you SEEN a Pixelshifted K-1 file when processed properly to take advantage of that feature!? Weow!
Nice review, and sounds pretty fair (kinda what I would expect from someone with limited Pentax experience), you got a sub xx
Ricoh is always so behind. Sad.
The Pentax prism needs to die
Thanks for taking the time to make this! There hasn’t been a lot of independent reviews of this camera besides the big ones, but they seem to just fiddle with the camera for a day and move on. Someone who is new to Pentax shooting like they would in a setting where you need to get the shot was a great perspective and confirmed some of what I’ve heard about this camera.
I do think probably different lenses would have had some role. The 77 is a 90s lens and while classic isn’t exactly a stellar modern performer, and the 16-85 is good but not great and not fast. If you had some of the modern fast lenses I think it would’ve played a little better for some of the issues, but I think most of the AF issues you were having would still be there. That’s what I’m hearing from others. A big step up for existing Pentax users in AF, but still far behind others.
Keep up this channel! I like the way you think through things.
You’re right. This sounds familiar for pentax AF.
I agree viewfinder is horrible in low light because is black. You can turn it on making it red but this does not help too much (but it helps). AF Cannot really say anything because I do not use it in continuous mode but I am not surprised that it does not perform “professionally”. Of course could be a matter of tons of reasons (FB focus?) but Pentax doesn’t shine in that area. What is surprising me is the high iso performance: i push it to 12000 ISO and i was 100% positive but I shoot raw so a NR is required. Since you’re using the K3iii for a pro usage there are many item to check and set (sensor temperature, high iso NR etc). I had a session at a Circus last night and yes, I had some over and some under exposed shoot but, in my case, the changing lights, the subjects movement was a real challenge that I can be satisfied. So I think this a quite complex camera that I still needs time to get used to. Live view focusing. No, although i am wearing glasses no, i do not have issues for focusing. Manual lenses at f1.4 needs focus peaking but I think is normal. I am a Pentax fan but i agree many review are far from the truth so good to see some different opinion.
Thanks for your honest review. Appreciate your findings. AF in the untrained hands in the past has been an issue, However we are seeing better improvements with AF. Personally I only shoot this camera outdoors as I am a landscape photographer and I tested the prototype very heavily. As you stated, they are certainly not the best performing lenses for this camera in my experience. There is the new 16-50 and even the dfa full frames that perform very well. Again, thanks for the review