I spent $8K on the M2 Ultra Mac Pro even though it’s DUMB │ Apple-youtubeリンクまとめ

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【チャンネル名　Luke Miani】

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Chris Peden より:

6月 22, 2023 4:13 pm

At least you admit you’re an idiot. It’s not rocket science. This is a special chassis for a certain type of customer. I’m sure apple has mountains of data on what their customers for this solution need and top of the list is PCI slots.

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Roy Zderich より:

6月 22, 2023 4:13 pm

I understand what your point is. And is true. We need that machine just because we need the I/O (PCI) for legacy hardware and for equipment that have more bandwidth requirements, this is common on recording a post production studios, Audio post production, video postproduction, film digitalization, and many more applications. There are tons of expensive equipment in PCI format you can’t not leave because there’s no alternative. A very good example of this is Show automation on big spectacles.

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Xerxes Ausejo より:

6月 22, 2023 4:14 pm

I feel sorry for you for buying that thing.. What a waste of money.

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webpoet73 より:

6月 22, 2023 4:15 pm

it’s a niche product among niche products. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t need to exist. PCI expansion can be critical to some.

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JCU より:

6月 22, 2023 4:15 pm

They shouldve made a mini version of the current Mac Pro tour with the M2 ultra. They shouldn’t have put the M2 ultra in the mac studio

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Joseph Van Caldenborgh より:

6月 22, 2023 4:17 pm

Is there a technical (non-marketing) reason, dedicated graphic cards are not possible?

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macbitz より:

6月 22, 2023 4:17 pm

Occurs to me that if they’d relaunched the 27″ 5K iMac with Apple Silicon, they’d probably have made many more $ of sales with that than this new Mac Pro. However, Apple is worth over a trillion dollars whereas I’m not, so maybe I’m wrong 😁

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Xiao Wong より:

6月 22, 2023 4:18 pm

Only reason to get this one instead of just the studio I can imagine is:
You really need those 40Tb+ on a M2 system and you’ll shove NVMe carrier cards into the PCIe slots..
I couldn’t imagine why tho… Shared editing workstation with 10 people working on it at once ? Nah I really don’t know.

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Raphael Martins より:

6月 22, 2023 4:19 pm

This product is so pointless. I don’t understand how the Mac Pro is still a thing, even though it’s dumb for a very long time

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fromquake より:

6月 22, 2023 4:19 pm

I’m sure the Mac Pro exists just to keep the TX assembly plant open so that they have a USA “made” product. Might be a PR bit or could be a regulatory requirement.

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Matthew Trow より:

6月 22, 2023 4:19 pm

I’ll wait until it’s $1k on eBay 5 years from now, which is totally going to happen – assuming Apple sell enough of them.

I don’t get this either – it makes zero sense to me.
For serious pro users, the studio is all you really need. For everyone else, there’s plenty to choose from in the apple range – heck, you can pick up a base model mac mini m1 for a few hundred bucks which is good enough for amateur/hobbyist video/audio/3d producers.

We’re in the golden age of Apple right now – with a price range that suits any budget.
This Mac Pro doesn’t fit into that golden age, it’s DOA.

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chrisw443 より:

6月 22, 2023 4:20 pm

its not the mac pro they were working on, its what they had to get out to stop selling intel. let’s hope an upgradable version comes out in another year or so. It’d be real sad to see the mac pro die.

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webpoet73 より:

6月 22, 2023 4:21 pm

Why can’t you install a GPU in the new Mac Pro? There is a connector for it.

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Music Factory Studios より:

6月 22, 2023 4:23 pm

As a studio owner for me the Mac Pro makes no sense but as a live audio engineer it it the prefect solution, for me. Because you need redundancy and PCI is faster and provides lower audio latency than even thunderbolt for things like networked audio with protocols like MADI. Plus it will be used outside where temps in the summer can reach above 100 to 105 degrees Fahrenheit so running those big fans will help keep it cool along with the PCI cards. Dual 10 gig networking is nice for redundant DANTE or AVB audio. My only gripe is I would like a way to Node them together like we could in the old days and use 2 of them in redundancy or one as a server and the other as the control machine. But yea I can see the groups of people that would use this and need it over the Mac Studio but it is a very professional segment that doesn’t want 5 eGPU boxes hooked up by cables just to use the cards they need. But for a recording studio its overkill unless you are scoring film and television.

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Petr Liebl より:

6月 22, 2023 4:24 pm

Luke,are you able to get to someone who possibly has “full use” for this computer? Because I think for normal or normal pro user,Youtuber who might go with M1 Air, you can’t value this enough.
So I would like some video with real (making) use (of), so that all the videos about Mac Pro are not that it is incapable,and only extremely expensive piece of metal,thank you…. 🤔

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Bram vandenbroeck より:

6月 22, 2023 4:24 pm

In computerland, the thing that ages the fastest, is the graphics card. You can get by with an i7 2600, which came out in 2011, you can even play doom eternal on it, which is quite impressive, now, try that with a graphics card from 2011, you won’t be able to do much, it will miss important features that modern software requires, no driver support anymore etc. And apple, in all their wisdom, blocked the installation of a graphics card, so no CUDA development for you for example! There are many labs that run simulations on mac hardware because of the stability, and they use top of the line AMD hardware to calculate the simulation. These people buy macs in bulk, but now? They won’t be able to do their job because apple blocks it! I was baffled by this decission!

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Autumn Rain より:

6月 22, 2023 4:24 pm

i don’t wish it didn’t exist, i just wish it could be upgraded

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Lost In LA より:

6月 22, 2023 4:25 pm

A proper review of a Mac Pro should have it fully loaded with cards otherwise this is another Studio review.

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Jonathan Acinity より:

6月 22, 2023 4:25 pm

Even worse, when the new M3 chip gets released (which is very soon), you 8k machine will be old news. Get prepared for a Mac Pro subscription every 2 years where you have to constantly spend 8K or more just to have the latest tech and compete with a $600 M3 Mac Mini on having the latest chip design and features. And how do you explain purchasing this when the incoming M3 Mac Studio will SURELY outperform this $8K (or way more in cost) machine by the end of next year? You can’t swap out the CPU. You would at least normally be able to make up for some of that by being able to upgrade your GPU and other specs.

This was a joke, and I believe it is Apple telling us that this is the very last Mac Pro. The Studio will be replacing it. Nvidia first, and now Apple screwing their fans that played a huge role in making them who they are. And never forget that any and EVERY tech company will do the exact same to you when they start to feel like they’re The Final Boss.

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Ted Antares より:

6月 22, 2023 4:26 pm

PCIe slots are there for a reason. Most probably, Apple plans to release Metal drivers with a support for NVIDIA, AMD and intel GPUs that will allow to use these GPUs at least as compute devices. Maybe they already have such drivers. Can you install a PCIe graphics card and see if the OS recognizes it? Can you also install a PCIe card with NVMe SSDs?

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