I spent $8K on the M2 Ultra Mac Pro even though it’s DUMB │ Apple-youtubeリンクまとめ

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【チャンネル名　Luke Miani】

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FiscalWoofer より:

6月 22, 2023 6:03 pm

😂 I’d get a Mac mini m2 and put it in a sonnet chassis for pci! That thing as you say is dumb

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Henri T より:

6月 22, 2023 6:03 pm

I think studio is new pro and this big box supposed to be pro was made for to get those pro fanatiks happy.

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Shane Edwards より:

6月 22, 2023 6:06 pm

As a professional audio engineer this is very welcome. I run a mac studio m1 ultra with an array of thunderbolt chassis and external drives etc. Thats many wall power sockets, cables and clutter. With a mac Pro I can put in 2x Avid HDX cards, Multiple nvme raid cards for sound libraries that load at full 16x PCie Gen4 and 2x UAD Pcie cards all with 1 socket to the wall and without my computer looking like an octopus. Also the rackmount option would just sit in my rack neat and tidy. I only wish i could swap to 72cpu cores and 24 gpu cores 😏

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H より:

6月 22, 2023 6:06 pm

I do think for many applications, especially in the live performance world, the presence of PCI slots for things like SDI video in and out makes this thing worth it. If the right software hardware combinations are used this thing could be an amazing tool for live audiovisual productions that greatly simplifies and cleans up the clutter of an everything on the outside Mac Studio setup, which we have many of at my theatre. In this world $3,000 is not that big of deal if it gives you a better chance glitch free shows and a cleaner setup. Completely off topic, I wish Apple would support multi touch for us live A/V people. I get why it doesn’t make sense for regular desktop users but for A/V tools multi touch is super useful and missed on desktop Mac’s. You can’ always rely on an iPad app to replace that functionality in use cases like audio mixers and video switchers.

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Guy Jordan より:

6月 22, 2023 6:11 pm

If, and only if Apple comes out with a quad chip… Maybe the M3 extreme… Then the extra space and cooling inside Mac Pro could be useful. Ultimately, they could allow a distributed computing model across multiple CPU modules perhaps one for each cooling bay. But yes, Apple studio is more than sufficient for most of us, and only a very few vertical enterprise needs for the PCI slots should apply.

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G G より:

6月 22, 2023 6:11 pm

The studio is ugly

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CJ Adams より:

6月 22, 2023 6:11 pm

The main issue i have with apple here.. is the new philosophy..which only benefits shareholders. – Expensive & Disposable is the current apple! – Other than storage and Protools HDX benefiting.. forget any “serious” 3d graphics.. ill take my water cooled dual RTX 4090 and all the saved render times at less $ to support more client work thank you very much.. spending $6000-$9000 every 2 years makes no business sense.. Apple very clearly “poisoned the well” – they wan’t this thing dead.. They did it just to say we completed the transition.. They also happily ignored the 2019 mac pro with only minor updates. Sorry.. as much as i LOVE macos.. apple totally screwed the pooch.. for the last time.

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Ryan Adam Sturgis より:

6月 22, 2023 6:11 pm

Servers?

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Nic Bam より:

6月 22, 2023 6:14 pm

I have photos of four separate shipments of the Mac Pro and the dent on the front bottom left corner is on every single box shipped. Same spot same amount of impact. It’s something I’ve actually pointed out to them.

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Jonathan Shore より:

6月 22, 2023 6:15 pm

Aside from a use for the PCI slots (which I assume is coming), upgradeable memory is a huge miss with this new Mac Pro. There are users (such as myself) that require large amounts of ram. My 2019 MP has 512GB, ram and I manage to use most of it in running my scientific computing workloads.

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Chumba Wumba より:

6月 22, 2023 6:17 pm

Imagine that you went to college for many years, getting a masters degree in advanced design and you find your way into Apple … your assignment … DESIGN THE BOX FOR THE NEW MAC PRO!!!! Kudo’s to whoever that lucky person was … uh, except for the fact that **NO ONE WILL SEE IT** LOL 🙂

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The Core より:

6月 22, 2023 6:19 pm

There is no reason to buy this Mac , Studio is a better choice, i rest my case.😒😒

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fotoralf より:

6月 22, 2023 6:22 pm

I still think that, compared to the original, the cheese grater 2.0 is butt-ugly. Sue me…

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David Murakami より:

6月 22, 2023 6:22 pm

This review needed to be said. This is the worst Mac Pro ever.

It’s pretty obvious that something went very wrong during production and design of this product. The M2 Ultra was not meant to be in this chassis. My guess is that Apple were trying to make an Apple Silicon chip with upgradable RAM and graphics, but they realised too late that it just was not cost effective. They don’t have the economies of scale that Intel or AMD have to recoup costs on these behemoth workstation/server class CPUs. So they panicked and threw in the M2 Ultra.

But it came at a huge cost and delay. Yet it’s the only sane story as to why this thing exists and why it’s so poorly designed. For example, no support for discrete GPUs and no MPX modules is an absolute travesty.

Then there’s the tiny RAM support. Audio engineers need hundreds of GBs of RAM. 192GB is minuscule — oh, and they have no need for M2 Ultra’s GPUs either! A few audio engineers are running their 2019 Mac Pros with the base 580X; but with the 28-core Xeon and 512GB+ of RAM.

The scientific compute crowd can’t use this machine either — the RAM doesn’t support ECC!

Terrible product.

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Michael Timpson より:

6月 22, 2023 6:23 pm

“The trashcan was rejected”…proceeds to recommend the Mac Studio. Anyway see the ultimate irony here?

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Michael Timpson より:

6月 22, 2023 6:24 pm

I want one. I have had every PowerMac/MacPro design since Jobs.

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B より:

6月 22, 2023 6:25 pm

In an alternate world, Apple continued to update the tech in the original tower. Had they kept the pro/enthusiast crowd happy they would’ve caught way less crap for the tradeoffs in their last gen laptops

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Lee Blaske より:

6月 22, 2023 6:26 pm

Another thing, here… Some people are saying “wait for the M3 machine.” We have NO idea when that might arrive. The last Mac Pro upgrade was four years ago. Considering that in four years, this machine will still be worth something if you sell it, spending $2k or less a year is not a big deal if it’s being used professionally. I run a recording studio. In 1990, I spent about $45k for a Sony APR-24 24 track analog tape deck (that’s the equivalent of over $100k today). I only used that machine for several years before it was replaced with a large ProTools rig, and I think I sold it for about $6k (so, a huge financial loss). A 2023 Mac Pro will do things I couldn’t dream of doing with that $100k tape deck (that also needed a TON of additional equipment hooked up to it to be able to do anything). The concept of what’s “A LOT” of money has sure changed over the years. 😉

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charles vachon より:

6月 22, 2023 6:27 pm

But can it grate cheese?

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Freeze より:

6月 22, 2023 6:28 pm

I hope they come out with new CDNA graphics for the existing mac pro. But even if they do they’ll overprice them shamelessly and it probably wont matter much. It’s a shame because this chassis and the proprietary graphics solution was truly something to behold in design and engineering. Power delivery through the motherboard entirely, PLX equipped, pcie bifurcated dual GPU master race computing. The CPU was pretty trash being a measly Xeon, nonetheless. An utter beast of a compute powerhouse in select software tasks.

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